What if the “perfect” marketing career path doesn’t exist?

Tamara sits down with Harvey Lee, a marketer who’s done it all (from launching the first Xbox to touring with rock stars) to unpack how curiosity, reinvention, and trying new things shaped his wildly nontraditional career.

Harvey shares how to make sense of a “messy” resume and why most marketers are climbing the wrong ladder. And, what does it mean to define success?

He breaks down the difference between acquisition and alignment, how to find your transferable niche without boxing yourself in, and why the smartest marketers stop waiting for permission and start leading with action.

If you’ve ever felt behind, burned out, or boxed in by your job title, this episode is a must-listen. Harvey’s advice will help you build a career that fits you…not the other way around.

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