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BONUS - In Ukraine with the Globe’s reporters on the ground

The Decibel

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Is There Anything That Surprising About This Conflict?

Mark Hertling: I remember leaving Kyiv a few days after the start of the war because we decided it was probably unsafe to stay. The way this war is gone and how different it was from the idea that we would have, you know, a three-day war, he says. "It's just... It's just very, very surprising when we pause and think back to what we were expecting at the start of this conflict"

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