"It's crazy. I had a conversation with some one very recently about this, about how it's been very hard for us to get things like shred credits and stuff a even win," he says. "I'm sure by the time you reach the scale where you can engage with the government of canada and get that stuff pushed through, you don't need it nearly as badly as i did five years ago", Ellewell adds. 'The whole realter grift is extremely frustrating'

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