I was living at Guy House, the resident teacher, and living in one kind of not very large room in the middle of the building. Surrounded by a certain way of thinking and looking and conceiving of the Dharma. And kind of something in me was beginning to explore all this imaginal stuff and begin to explore it for myself in practice. So I started really, really taking that up as a theme. When I look back now, it was very different than it is now, how it's evolved. But there was a lot of insight with that.

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