Tor: Lowering IGF-1 and growth hormone signaling after, yeah, I think the data suggests about 50% of the effects. This has been done with Tor, it's been done with growth hormone receptor. So yeah, you get a benefit, but you don't get this just extraordinary effect of growth hormone receptor mutation from birth,. These mice are exceptional. Half of them will get too. Imagine it's like saying humans live to 80, imagine how humans on average will live to 115 and say 95% of humans develop some chronic disease. Now imagine that 95 goes down to less than 50. That's extraordinary nature of these mutations.

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