Hendrik: We will wait until after the break to talk about whether AI can be conscious or not. But I think we all agree that they will behave like they're being conscious long before they, if and when they actually get conscious. People will react to them as if they are conscious. Do you think that this will create a lot of what you call it moral movements saying, oh, we cannot treat them like this even long before they eventually get conscious? Will that be a problem? He says he's more worried about people using these systems for bad purposes. And what could that be? Anyone here?

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