Since the end of the cold wan, what we even think warfare is has become stretched further and further to include more and more parts of life. Our adversaries have realized that we're extraordinarily dominant in that space. So with sort of avoidance behavior. They're looking for other ways to to expand the envelope so that they can confront us without in drawing a major destructive response. And i guesst themer conclusion in the book is, if our adversaries are adapting in the ways they're adapting because of our military dominance, then they're reacting in a sort of fitness landscape that we've created. Can we maybe direct their their evolution in a different way by changing what di ask that question towards
This month will mark a year since the Taliban takeover of Kabul in August 2021 and the chaotic withdrawal of western forces from Afghanistan. In this archive discussion from 2020, we discuss the nature of past Western interventions and the guerrilla warfare resistance that has followed with David Kilcullen, former soldier, diplomat, and senior counterinsurgency adviser for the US during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. He joined Carl Miller, Research Director at the Centre for the Analysis of Social Media at the think tank Demos, to discuss his book: The Dragons and the Snakes: How the Rest Learned to Fight the West.
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