Defy - What's Your Approach to Scaling?

I defy in general, were of the assumption that like this is very net, like valuable sort of market plumbing. I do think there's like a real regulatory shock that'll probably happen on this thing at some point. The biggest hurdle it's got to get over is some way of getting around the fact that erything has to be fully collateralized. And either that's going to be identity base systems that actually work in the system, or figuring out walled garden type stuff like that.