And that exists nowadays. But I do think you take a lot of the fun out of life when you don't let us judge each other, Father.

Well, you know, the great pleasures of life is judging you. Yes, true because it gives you something to do when you're not doing what you're supposed to be

doing. Exactly. Right, right. You have minding somebody else's. I want to go back to where you were heading. If I'm sure, please. So first of all, I'm fascinated by this document and I'm going to read this document now. And I'm very grateful to you for bringing it kind of to the attention. We can start Rosa, Rosé, Rosé, Rosa. Oh, you're going to I'm not reading it in Latin. I'm going to find an English translation. No, it doesn't exist. There's no English translation. No. Oh, well, fine then. All right. Well, I'll learn my Latin. Okay. I'll finally I'll learn my Latin. But, but, but after this consideration of the document, you were moving towards a conversation about the Catholic understanding of the mutilation of the body. Okay, yes, right. And you had raised up this idea that we are so delicate about the psychology of the person now that we have forgotten the underlying moral understanding of

the human body that the church holds. Right, exactly. And to have a holistic view towards psychology and to tell someone you have intense feelings now, but feelings pass and rarely do particular dispositions remain exactly the same throughout life. And if you make a bodily change of a major sort in your body, a day will come when you will have the buyer's remorse. You'll be sorry about it. You'll be sorry you did it. This happens over and over again. The news of that is suppressed by a media which is, which is determined, doggedly determined to promote the cityology. Right. And if you try, it's the same with abortion, if you try to publicly announce or show that you regret that you had this done and you would, you would undo it if you could, no one's going to listen to you. You will not be asked to talk on a radio talk show on NPR. Like women who are traumatized by their abortions, they have no voice. No. All you can get is- They don't fit the narrative. Right. They don't fit the narrative. And the narrative is really cruel and it's damaging to people. And they do it all in the name of liberty and individual freedom and all of that. And in point of fact, it's a recipe for misery. People need to be told the whole truth. Yes, you feel like you'd like to be a person of the opposite sex or no sex. But your body tells a different story and throughout your life, you're going to have a struggle in this regard, but don't do something to your body that will not be able to be changed in the future, especially as it regards your very bodily nature as male and female. Like just leave it because time will come that you will regret it. I work with people before and I just say, look, at least do this. Don't do any changes to your appearance that are immutable. Right. Right. So like someone may be determined to wear the clothes of the opposite sex. That's a question about which I'm writing an article for the online magazine. But in that case, you just say, but please don't do anything to be let your body. If you can't resist doing that, at least don't do something that is irreparable. And that's a key point. I don't like to talk about these things insofar as they're grave sins. They are, they can be, but in our current civilization, you have to convince people on the level of the heart that this is really bad for them. And because the world has so distorted the discourse that already, if you even oppose these things to a little degree, you're presented as a hateful person who's trying to harm the person. That's why they use this language. Everyone will express a reservation about transgenderism and then they'll be in immediate, I don't feel safe with him in the classroom. He can't be here. I'm not safe. The perceiving anyone that disagrees with you as a threat. And that shows the genuinely exaggerated, hysterical nature of these reactions because they're doing it deliberately in order to force an opinion and to shut down anyone that doesn't agree. And so it doesn't help then for the person who's speaking the truth about this to then add in theological aspects, which we may please God, it may be true that people have been so confused by what's been going on that they're not culpable. They believe is okay. I'm sure that's right. If a kid is taught from kindergarten on that he can decide whether to be a boy or a girl, you know, that has an impact. St. Thomas Aquinas himself says that that a certain upbringing can make a person invincibly ignorant, not of the Catholic faith, but of the natural law.

Right.