Is There a Zeitgeist Going On?

I feel like what's happening in the zeitgeist is you know back in 2007 it was traditional publishing was the only way to go. We're actually gonna sell direct we're actually gonna get the customer data and like you said we can still have our books elsewhere so it almost feels like a new wave. I watched 2021 you know mid 2021 and I think I spoke at 20 books towards the end of that year to last year seeing how many people are in my group  and different groups into to seeing how many sessions it had in like 20 books conference which is only author conference that I've been in.