Is It Selfishness?

"I'm not going to go out there and say selfish. I've definitely seen some stuff and heard of, you know, some things people have said to friends," he says. "There's plenty of people who want to use it and want to defend it because they see use cases, they see personal gain from it." He adds: "It's always going to be a little difficult to ask them to connect with how hard this has been or the humanistic demands of like, can we take a breather here?"