The Importance of Nature

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"There's something about being in space that's not human-made," he says. "The weather, you know, the altitude, all these conditions that are beyond our human control,. And I think that's a really important experience for us to have regularly." In nature, we can go to get that element of surprise in awe - and that's such a fun emotion to have.

Where are you listening to this podcast? In your car? At your desk? Puttering around your house? If Shelby Stanger had her druthers, you’d be listening in the great outdoors — maybe while hiking on a scenic trail, or pedaling down an open road, or sitting astride a surfboard (while wearing waterproof earbuds, of course).

Shelby is a journalist and adventurer: as a journalist, her work has appeared in Outside Magazine and on ESPN; as an adventurer, she’s surfed from Canada to Costa Rica and paddled remote stretches of the Amazon River. Her new book, “Will to Wild: Adventures Great and Small to Change Your Life,” is a guide to getting out of your comfort zone and into the wild world.