Ye, i'm always interested in businesses where investors are comfortable with capaxs or rd which might be elevated relative to industry peers. The absolute worst thing i can imagine doing in the space is being behind on arndy and then losing some type of share and trying to play katch up. We talkd a lot about the two major players in the industry. I'm curious, when you think about competition, are there any other players, threats up in commerce that are arist to cadence? Ye, i would say generally, like the lines between e d a, like chip desin sofware and like mechanical cab to sew or seamans would sell, those lines are

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