I think perhaps it is a principle of progress that smoke and mirrors somehow is the way you build the future. And I think that's going to be the way we achieve AGI. We don't have line of sight, but there's glimmerings of light in the distance for all of these things. There really hasn't been a. For a long time and even at the beginning, it's like, yes, I am. The original founding, I kind of corporate structure of software led to a bunch of problems.

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