I don't know what needs to happen for people to change systems that have been in place for so long. It's a compliance of this is just how we do it, then there's got to be some version of it's incorrect or it doesn't work now and everything's changed. So I'm fascinated by where this goes in terms of watching how society at large and those who seek to govern it work out a solution. You're going to watch all of these old systems collapsing. We are moving into it.

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