At what age did you recognize that this was not normal? It's hard to put a number on when I knew it was not normal, but I remember at a very young age having that feeling to protect my brother, my younger brother from it. Or, and I have a very distinct memory of actually trying to protect my mother one time. Because out of love, she didn't want to see me get hurt. And we'll talk about it. The teams helped channel that into good.