Both sides gained from exchange. That's just a key insight economists have generally. The idea that trade is mutually eficial to both parties, especially when there are lots of alternatives, right? Which start to get you thinking about competition. It's actually a, it's a deep, important idea. And again, and that's key. But anyway, that that leads to the idea that exploitation is very hard to define.
Economist and author David Henderson talks about his book (co-authored with Steve Globerman) The Essential UCLA School of Economics with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. Much of the conversation focuses on the work of Armen Alchian and Harold Demsetz, who both saw economics as a powerful tool for understanding human behavior and how the world works.