Vaughan: We had our friend ben newman back on the show the other day. Ben is a professional public speaker, and he's like talking literally two or three times, maybe more, a week. Vaughan asked him how did you really get to be the point? You're soe successful. He said, vaughan, i ve daily habit of i contact a certain number of people a day without fail. And that's what i thought of when i heard you talking. It's not just this, this overtime being committed to on going work,. But its attempt after attempt after attempt, repetition, like success is habit.