This is a selection of highlights from episode #203 of The 80,000 Hours Podcast. These aren't necessarily the most important, or even most entertaining parts of the interview — and if you enjoy this, we strongly recommend checking out the full episode:

Peter Godfrey-Smith on interfering with wild nature, accepting death, and the origin of complex civilisation

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Highlights:

• Luisa’s intro (00:00:00)
• Thinking about death (00:00:24)
• Uploads of ourselves (00:05:32)
• Against intervening in wild nature (00:12:36)
• Eliminating the worst experiences in wild nature (00:16:15)
• To be human or wild animal? (00:21:46)
• Challenges for water-based animals (00:27:38)

Highlights put together by Simon Monsour, Milo McGuire, and Dominic Armstrong