2min chapter

Pod Save America cover image

“Between Barack and A Hard Place.”

Pod Save America

CHAPTER

The Only Way to Destroy a Party Is Not by Being That

I think sometimes people view what you just said as a kind of weakness or a combination. But it's actually, I think, a recognition of what we're seeing on their side. They need to feel shamed into not being this way. And the way you defeat them is not by saying the things that always feel the best in the moment and just finding the best argument to reach the most people. That may not happen in these midterms, but that's what we have to do every single day.

00:00

Get the Snipd
podcast app

Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
App store bannerPlay store banner

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode

Save any
moment

Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways

Share
& Export

Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode