I think there's two halves of this conversation. We have the technology of the pre-existing world pre-crypto and then in Venge Crypto, we can be like, oh, we can improve our old technologies by applying these new crypto things. And that's totally true. But the problem is you're fighting against like a massive ship that is that they have to turn,. You have incumbents that are doing things in old ways that you have to convince to pivot. It's very much like, I mean, we've seen this before, haven't we? That's how the internet emerged.

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