The drug experience did for me is it just proved I mean so the one of the limitations of a drug is that you know obviously no matter how good the experience the drug wears off and then you're back to more or less your usual form. With something like MDMA they can be quite quite vivid where you recognize okay there was a way of being that is quite different than what I'm tending to access by default and it is different. The idea that there's some other way of grasping cognitively at the interesting parts of the world beyond thinking about the world wouldn't have computed for me at all right.

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