195. Jamy Ian Swiss — The Conjuror’s Conundrum
The Michael Shermer Show
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I'd Put Tony Robins in That Category
Would you put tony robins in that category, versus somehing like a depoctopera or a ecartole who gives a kind of western buddhism, inspirational talk with an audience? I think robins knows exactly what he's doing. I think he's manipulating people to make a living. And they're preying on people. People are spending tremendous amount of money with dubious, dubious results. It has nothing to do with what he thinks he's doing. In the end, it doesn't matter. Their actions are what matter. And the results of their actions is irrelevant.
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