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Steff smith has a new job opportunity. She will be joining andres and horwits to host their flagship podcast. This is a little bit of a pivot, which is funny, because we had an episode on this a couple weeks ago. But i will be a podcast toast. And who knows where i'll be in three years from now, but three years ago, i would have never thought podcast toast would be my title.

Steph has some exciting news to share in today's episode! Listen in to find out.

In this episode, Cal and Steph also cover the rise of the creator economy -- both its promise and pitfalls.

They breakdown why the heightened attention toward creators, whether we can expect a creator "middle class" anytime soon, the importance of IP, and even explore what it truly means to be a "creator"...

Is it the things they build?
Is it the audience they have?
Is it the money the make?

They also cover upcoming trends that they expect to hit this growing "creator economy" including the rise of digital influencers, content automation, crypto, and gaming.

If you'd like to ask Cal or Steph a question for an upcoming AMA episode, we encourage you to submit your questions here!