Simon Tisdall: I can sort of feel it's coming. If we actually treat like all the other sustainability problems where we map the actual problem out and see where the nodes and bottlenecks are, then go to them. We will need oil, gas and coal because we haven't done any work at all. And so we'll need those fossil fuels to construct the next industrial year or whatever that is. But when we do, we have to be very aware that when we are using that energy, it has to be for a strategic purpose.

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