The Philosophy of Play: Sticks vs. Toys

Our guest this week is non other than Dereck Lively II of the Dallas Mavericks. In this episode, Lively opens up by talking about his passion for Legos and how it helps his hand-eye coordination. Then he gets into his draft night and thinking he might be a member of the Oklahoma City Thunder. He also gets real about learning how to play with Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving and what it was like for the Mavs to make the NBA Finals his rookie year. This interview is so great and we're excited for you all to here it.

The episode also features Pablo Torre of the podcast, "Pablo Finds Out" to talk about Mavs/Thunder, a recap on their fantasy football team and then the guys draft BEST TOYS. Let's go!

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