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The Paradox of Green Growth
The move towards decarbonization and electrification globally is being driven, if that's the right way to maybe pardon the pun there, but push forward by governments. And fundamentally, what that really means is we're going to be using much more, many, many more tons of all of these raw materials as opposed to less. So recycling or some technologies perhaps we can get into will help plug any potential structural gap between supply and demand. But by no means will they solve the problem. We are going to need more raw material period end of story.