Andy Cevallos: I love talking with you about technology because so much discussions of it just stay in what I call the instrumental level. What jobs are you going to be threatened? What new capabilities will I get? And this reminds me of a conversation on a podcast where we were talking about entertainment. David's point was, well, you can't relate to it as a third rail, as it's something that of which it is dangerous and we just need to protect ourselves from it. In the same way, I don't think technology and AI,. using that term or chat JPT, can be viewed as a third Rail that's like the source of evil, we just need

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