The Importance of Having Arguments for Innocence

We're both focused on the people who are on the hard end of things like counter-terror policy. That has become increasingly salient and important. If we don't have arguments for those groups then we're just going to wait until the goal post is shift, there might be no one to stop at this time and they won't really have progressed. When we were kind of coming to do the Stansted trial and lots of the media around it we often ended up talking about this woman who ran the detained voices, hotline. She'd been in a marriage in Nigeria. It was like an arranged or forced marriage. She'd had children and she'd left come here to live as a lesbian.