Raker's wiles formula may be ten years ago now, so i don't know how up dated that is to day. Tha, lot of it has just been cherry picked. The people in the immortis crowd that really big up these supplements, eh, they're the ones selling the supplements,. So it's in their interests for themto big up the next big supplement. Andit's not to say that none work. Obviously some of them might work, but there's just no proof that they do work.

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