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155: We Want Them Infected (w/Jonathan Howard, M.D.)

Conspirituality

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How to Refute the Myths of the Anti-Violence Movement

Ilyse Hogue: I was really shocked during the pandemic when pro-virus ideas that obvious quacks like Kelly Brogan were spewing about measles and HPV became kind of mainstream. And you started hearing them from the mouths of prominent doctors from Stanford, Harvard, UCSF, Johns Hopkins,. She says she's fascinated as to how smart people could believe crazy things like this.Hogue: Do you have any explanation or hunch about how one makes that journey from working in top-level hospitals to being someone who is spreading COVID disinformation? You know, there are several types of doctors with several very high-pet agreed credentials who went down this road.

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