Sally Kohn: I completely agree with what you're saying. One of the threads that I found really interesting is these department store magnets kind of ensuring that they are creating these like public goods, right? She says it's not just buy things, but also we're doing these other positive things for the community. Kohn: It worked really well for the robber barons. But you can see this sort of ideological tendency in a lot of people in liberalism to sort of let these people handle it because they are successful.
Paris Marx is joined by Amanda Mull to discuss the history of consumerism and where ecommerce goes in the next few years as interest rates rise and its market share stalls.
Amanda Mull is a staff writer at The Atlantic, where she writes the Material World column. She’s also a shop steward at The Atlantic Union. Follow Amanda on Twitter at @amandamull.
Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (@techwontsaveus) and host Paris Marx (@parismarx) on Twitter, and support the show on Patreon.
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