Kathy was the one person who I did want to get to because it does seem like if you're just going to pick somebody who sticks out the most, it's got to be Kathy. Yeah. She is very much. Steinbeck is already like she is aware that humans are kind of shameful and secretive about sexuality. That is a means to power over other people. And she learns about this and just decides to use it forever as the way to get what she wants in life.