How do we stay with fundamental issues or things in life or in art? We're sort of jumping back and forth between life and art here. That's the art is how do you actually do that? I mean, I find that very difficult in things that I do if I'm writing something. It's an article of faith that one can get better at that just by trying it. So for me, it's like I'm not a first time read, but I'm pretending to be a first time reader.

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