I think that your attitude in the book and towards these things is one i'm very much in favor of. It makes all the sense in the world to imagine all the scenarios we can imagine, because things are changing super duper rapidly. I find myself at the end of many of my podcast interviews saying, o well, it's a brave new world. And i think this is definitely an example of that. So john er, thanks so much for your insights here. This is a fun conversation.

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