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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots

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Video Games That Don't Have Such Communities Around Them

There's a slippery slope there too because then just having visited the front in Ukraine, you get to see the real killing of people. It does become a kind of video game. And that same mechanism, I feel like I want to be cautious about our brain going down that road. So yeah I do worry about that community but there are video games that don't have such communities around them and Minecraft is relatively civil from what I've seen.

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One of the, because I've been thinking of talking to a few streamers and they do, they're a little bit, I don't know as far as that community broadly does use racial slurs and seem to make them okay. But for the ones I would talk to are a little bit, they're just harsh in general in the intensity of language and I don't know what to do. Like I don't want to be the guy who says kids these days with their mean language on the internet, you want to kind of adapt to the different communities. But at the same time, there's lines that you can cross. If you make everything into a joke because that's what they do, everything ends in LOL, everything is funny. And that becomes, once again, a lubricant that it's like a slippery slope that takes you to a place where you actually make pretty mean ideas, even evil ideas okay because it started as a joke. And so I mean you start getting into the territory of, I mean because I've been reading a lot on Hitler and Stalin and so on and you'll see those kinds of topics come up in that community and it's like, oof, they have a very different perspective on that stuff. To them it's just a fun joke, fun time. And I see that the contrast of that would call a duty where you're shooting and I love shooting and killing things in video games. But there's a slippery slope there too because then just having visited the front in Ukraine, you get to see the real killing of people and you see how one can lead to another. It's non obvious but there's something that happens in video games where you're like, well this is not reality. The same kind of things happens in war. Well the people on the other side aren't really human. It does become a kind of video game. And that same mechanism, I feel like I want to be cautious about our brain going down that road. So yeah I do worry about that community but there are video games that don't have such communities around them. I think Skyrim, I don't think Skyrim is an online component of people.
Speaker 1
Minecraft I think is relatively civil from what I've seen. Interesting. I think it's a lot of, right now it's booming, it's a lot of young creators who are all seemingly quite close. And I think the community then extends to social media. Some of them are intense but who isn't? And I think they foster a more or less kind of good group of folks. But no I completely agree. I think a lot of that stuff and combined with the end of the video stuff that we mentioned earlier totally dehumanizes the way people interact with each other. And it's scary. I don't know. Combine that with two years of some people barely going outside. Yeah with COVID.

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