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#005 Joe Hertler: Tapping Into Creative Genius & Pursuing Joy Through Creativity

Smart Friends

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A, I'll Never Remember Dave Calling Me

"It's pretty cool that we all are very close," he says. "That stuff still, i still watch, like, some of your live stuff on youtube." The band have spent half their life in a van together and even those who've left the group remain tight-lipped about what happens next.

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