It becomes much easier, even for an average, pordinary person, if everybody else around you is doing itso that's why it's good to set good standards in families. That ell lie down theand is tomasi a holy company. Is good that way. Don't force sometimes spiritual people can become very preachy people. And that e annoying other people. We can show by example. The spiritual seeker considers them well, not all the time. Has made had considered at least once in life, and considered them well, and knows the limitation. Like nagicata, whatever the range of pleasures, pleasurable things offered, prayes nagicate knows, i don't