Hearnes: Like bitcoin, the use case was originally that it would be not only a currency, but highly functional. atheorium kind of replaced that vision of bitcoin. And most of the bdefi projects are actually being, again, used by millions of people now. Hearnes: It's a really great time, i think, not to be like a lot of people raising money as like a crypto hedge fund,. But it's a real great time to be a v in thi base ibsolutely.

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