I mean, i've watched people over years, i mean, on tying ten years, you know, in which finally, because, and i say, instead of trying to get out of the shadow the dark, which i think reinforces the shadow, actually, it reinforces the ity of it, it is better to just do your practices. See if somebody says, i'm having these terrible thoughts, and i don't know why. Would you help me understand why? I'd say, i'd rather have you sit down and follow your breath. The breath has no content to it at all. It's just the breath better. They strengthen the centring, the quieting, the presence. And then rather than keep strengthening the problem, which keeps being reinforced when you work on it. And that's a very delicate question, because i don't want to undercut times when it's really appropriate to work on problems as content. But for the most part, the focusing on the content of thoughts is, to me, a last strategy. It is a much better strategy to focus the mechanics of thought rather than the content of thought. Do you hear that distinction? Because that's a very, very critical distinction. If you don't understand it, raise our hand, because i'd like to have people really hear that one. We're dealing with the the like i'm caught in a lot of thoughts about relationship, about this and about that. Say, now i can go to witherapis the therps say, well, let's talk about your childhood and winder to come from that' content. We're dealing with the content of the thoughts. Or i can just see these as more thoughts. They're just thoughts. Put em now in the category of thoughts, not what they're about. They're just thoughts. And what is my major game in meditation is to extricate awareness from identification with thought, or with clinging to out. So in order to do that, i will you go into my meditation practice, which in some cases might be taking one thought, following the breath and using it to free me from the clingings of other thoughts. So i'll start to follow the breath, and up will come. What am i to do about that relationship? See, thought appears, and i hear the teacher say, return to your breath. I go back to breathing in, breath out. Then another one comes and says, god, my life is a mess. Now at that point, you can leave, callatherapus, go and say, let's deal with why my life is a mess. Or you say, ok, go back to the breath. Showe you lifes a mess. Go back to the breath, rising, falling, rising, falling, rising, falling. And now, in other words, ou can use the meditative practice to extricate yourself from identification with thoughts, whatever they are, shadowy or not. There are some thoughts that you won't get rid of that way, because they are a sort of in a nest or web of stuff. And then you will approach them in terms of content. But my strategy is to go for the mechanics first, and then go to the content later on, when some content seems ripe to pick off, like i've gone. I was meditating for 15 years, i think. And thenan years back, i had been in psychoanalysis. And after 15 years of meditation, certain psychological things were clearly not getting they just hung in there. But my awareness had developed great strength. And at that point i went into therapy with a jungian therapist. And for about three months, it was just great stuff that i was just ready to pick off a lot of stuff. And that was about as much as i needed o that that round, the more practices you've done, the quicker the working through will be. See, in the predicament of working through with the therapis is that if the therapist is not awakened to these other realms of reality, the therapist thinks that the content is real, while a spiritual perspective sees the content as relatively real. Do you see the difference? Relatively real has the leverage to free you from it. Real? Mean, all you can do is substitute something else for it that's within that domain of reality. Is that too? Do you hear that issue? So it's really important that you look for therapis, or that you work with therapus, or that you become a therapis who's rooted in these deeper parts of your being.