Ben: The idea of a rising tide lifting all boats, as you mentioned Ben really is something that this industry continually rings home. But I want to ask you specifically then about you and the team at espresso for your thoughts on what are the alignments of economic activity need to be between the L1 and the L2. Just given that there are significant VCAT VCAT for going out of the L2,. And this is kind of our seed you guys talk about how the idea of like a idea oflike a restaking protocol really be a perfect way to kind of like bring the DA and have the value there set of the L1 also kind of participating in this shared sequence.

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