The Overswing to the Other Extreme

I hate the sort of interpretation that because Sam was a fraud, the entire industry was a fraud. And there are people in the government that clearly have sort of taken it that way. I don't know if like you said, it's because their ego is bruised. It's like at some point you need to be able to swallow it and to digest it ... Eventually we're going to come out of it stronger in a better place.

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