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Taxi mafias, cash vaults, and 100% MoM growth: The story behind Southeast Asia’s biggest startup | Kevin Aluwi (Gojek)

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career

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The Importance of Understanding the Work That Needs to Be Done to See Excellence

Jack Dorfman: As a founder, I do think it's really important to understand the work that needs to be done in order to see what excellence looks like. For us, you know, again, we came from an ecosystem where the availability of experienced talent was relatively low. And so for me, it was very hard to be able to hire someone with job description Z who probably can deliver. He says he held many roles at Uber because he wanted to understand every part of the business and then find somebody who could do it better than himself.

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