"I think we as a society need to do a better job of giving people grace when they make a mistake," he says. "The big cancel culture should be completely fucking redirected and utilized for evil things." He tells himself that if he didn't start his company, he would have been working at McDonald's or cooking French fries in some kind of restaurant. The story I told myself is if I don't keep going, bro, I'm going to dig ditches.

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