I first was running a camera at 13 14 years old you know my what I asked for for Christmas that next year was I need a family video camera so I can make skate videos. And people don't even know about that shit because I was used to on their phone. But back then dude it was probably one of these show the jobs. 96 97 no they've done a little smaller than the high tapes. We're working with the the Sony the little handheld Sony one orYeah ask him like I had one of those ones growing up with the screen like twisted you got the camera and you're right yeah yeah this one that was the best one ever.