
28 | Roger Penrose on Spacetime, Consciousness, and the Universe
Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
The Girdle Theorem and the Evolution of Mathematics
You've suggested it happens in our brains. And you've gone further than that. Yes, well, that's the... But the audience we should mention that in part, you've done this in collaboration with Stuart Hemeroff, who is in the room right now. So which came first? Your consciousness thoughts as it were, or your quantum mechanics thoughts, or when did they get together? Well, you see, the quantum mechanics thoughts came first because I mentioned these lecture courses I went to. The direct issue about where there seems to be a gap in our present understanding. He didn't put it like that, but that was what he felt.
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