"There's a huge story there much richer to my mind than in the bible of the crun um that is there," he says. "A lot of my moral understandings come from my understanding that I'm a primate and  there are all sorts of social emotions if you will that I inherit at birth that have to do with nurture and bonding and so there's all sorts of stuff that can be informative in uh foraging one's religious orientation right?" He also talks about his fascination with clothing optional hot tubs on the cliffs of the Pacific Ocean as well as Europe's great cathedrals. 'I get the same kind of feeling like my wife from Cologne Germany,' writes

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