An Exploration of Ocheba's Emotional Turmoil and Vulnerability

Jo and Rob return to break down the ninth episode of ‘Shogun.’ They discuss Anna Sawai’s impressive performance, Mariko’s intense standoff at the castle gates, and how the show has been gradually building up to “Crimson Sky.” Along the way, they talk about Ochiba pulling the strings behind the scenes and her emotional interaction with Mariko. Later, they unpack the outcome of various main characters in the penultimate episode’s shocking final scene. 

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Rob Mahoney

Producers: Kai Grady and Isaiah Blakely

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