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How Do You Cope? …with Elis and John

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The Serenity Prey - The Definition of Insanity

The Serenity Prey is from Alcoholics Anonymous. You had to start facing up to what the problems you'd caused and all of the mistakes you'd made and the money you'd lost. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That also comes from 12-step program. And this interview is something that's going to stay with me for an awfully long time. I have so much I could say, but it would just be ridiculous because this isn't a podcast about my life.

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