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Episode 9: Conversations on the Nature of Awareness and Experience

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Is There a Relationship Between Form and Formlessness?

There is no relationship between a screen and a movie, because there aren't two things there to be related to one another. The only stuff that is present in experience is knowing. If we proceed like an honest scientist or a true mystic, we have to admit that knowing is all that is ever or could ever be known. In other words, all we can say for absolute certainis there is consciousness,. And i am than it is difficult because basically, if i close my eyes, there seems to be a metaphysical part of experience and then a physical. It's very easy to believe your metaphyical side, your thoughts, your feelings, are you, and then the physical side are not

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